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本多RuRu

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Originally Posted by Coman  
On the other hand, the choice of mentality is never simple. Try looking at how the computer does it. You might not trust its decisions: it will change it several times during a match, depending on the situation(opposition, opposition's formation and mentality, score, venue, eventual red cards ); managers in real life do it in a similar way. It's not easy to make something out of it and find a sure recipe for each situation, but every litlle thing that you learn is good.
For example, notice how the AI seems to sometimes balance the game in the second half, after being completely dominated in the first one. This will happen after it changes from defensive to normal in most cases.

Coman, that is what I think SI-games called the AI cracking tactics - if the computer finds itself being under pressure (i.e not accomplishing much), it changes something. Mentality for sure and maybe even other settings.
I don't believe in any other form of tactic cracking. The whole belief in it is (imo) a 'superstition' developed by people using inconsistent tactics experiencing a change of luck.

The key to handling the AI with it's changes in settings is by doing the same! Once you are under pressure, not achieving a single shot in say 20 minutes, change something. It works miracles quite often. So when JLa changes to offensive the last 15 minutes and sees it working - it might not be just because it is offensive, just changing something might give you a boost. To be able to select initial mentality after opposition, and more importantly change when needed, you need to have tactics that work well with different mentalities.

Which leads to the topic of the day, how to make sure your tactics are good with several mentalities. Which of course means you need to benchmark them with both normal and attacking (and preferably defensive setting as well), and select tactic after those results. Which might not be so easy after all.

Here is a puzzle for you folks. This weekend I did some tactic benchmarking using my man city benchmark. The purpose was to develop something resembling of a 5-4-1 that can score a lot of goals for Derby in the challenges (AJ! Your fault I am doing this!  ). After some benchmarking, I have (among others) these two candidate tactics to choose from, with the following benchmark results:

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Tactic                        Pl  W  D  L Goals Pts   Place Notes
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32311derby                38 21  8  9 73-47 71pts (6th) normal ment
32311derby                38 25  4  9 78-49 79pts (2nd) normal ment
32311derby                38 20 11  7 68-46 71pts (6th) normal ment
32311derby                38 20  9  9 72-50 69pts (5th) normal ment
32311derby                38 19  9 10 80-60 66pts (7th) normal ment
32311derby                38 18  9 11 66-50 63pts (8th) normal ment
32311derby                38 18  7 13 80-68 61pts (8th) attacking ment
32311derby                38 26  3  9 68-36 81pts (2nd) attacking ment
32311derby                38 21 10  7 79-46 73pts (4th) attacking ment
32311derby                38 21  7 10 75-52 70pts (4th) attacking ment
32311derby                38 17  6 15 78-66 57pts (9th) attacking ment
32311derby                38 18 11  9 66-50 65pts (6th) attacking mentand

Code:
Tactic                        Pl  W  D  L Goals Pts   Place Notes
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33301derby                38 22 10  6 62-32 76pts (5th) normal ment
33301derby                38 21  7 10 68-42 70pts (6th) normal ment
33301derby                38 18  5 15 60-52 59pts (8th) normal ment
33301derby                38 21  8  9 60-34 71pts (5th) normal ment
33301derby                38 20 10  8 66-48 70pts (4th) normal ment
33301derby                38 18  9 11 62-48 63pts (7th) normal ment
33301derby                38 22  8  8 67-42 74pts (3rd) attacking ment
33301derby                38 29 10  9 68-42 67pts (6th) attacking ment
33301derby                38 19  6 13 67-46 63pts (6th) attacking ment
33301derby                38 20 12  6 73-46 82pts (5th) attacking ment
33301derby                38 20 10  8 66-48 70pts (6th) attacking ment
33301derby                38 17 12  9 65-45 63pts (6th) attacking ment

If I had to chose one of those, which one should I use, and why? :-)

//Tapani

ps: I am assuming you all are benchmarking and are able to evaluate benchmark runs without me explaining the basics? :ds

梦回1974

恩，看了下，发觉我不认识

ouyangbo

英语还没过A级的路过

tattoo

说的太细了，我把里面的观点译出来吧。

1. 心态的选择很不简单。电脑在一场比赛中心态会根据对手和场上情况不同改变很多次，现实中的
    教练们也是这样。但是很难找出一定之规。研究电脑的做法，得到任何一点收获都是游泳的。比
    如，电脑经常能够在下半时扳平比分，通常情况下这是在心态从防守改成正常之后才发生的。

2. 如果电脑发现被压着打，就会改变某种设置。肯定会改心态，或者还有其他的设置。认为除了
    这些设置调整以外，相信还有其他方式破解电脑战术的想法都是“迷信”。

3. 对付电脑的调整只有一个办法，就是你也做同样的调整。比如你20分钟没有1次射门，一定要调整，
   通常都会产生奇迹。比如你在最后15分钟把心态改成防守并取得胜利，其原因并不是因为心态是
   防守，而是因为在那种情况下只要调整就会带来提升。我们需要比较一种战术在防守，正常，以及
   进攻3种不同心态下的效果，从而找出每种心态下好用的战术，这个工作并不容易。
   
4. 以MAN CITY为基准做了战术测试，目的是为了做一个类似541的阵但是能进更多球。测试后发现有
    以下2中战术可以选择，测试情况见表。问那种战术更好？原因？

译完发现比原文也没短多少，有价值的基本的都有了。

Lescott

有人翻译了，偶就不在重复了

说实话，战绩也太差了，就这样还敢说进球多？？？RURU你有没有拿你的单前锋的阵去吓吓他们？

七夜

我想没什么有价值的东西样

ecp

原帖由 Lescott 于 2007-12-14 06:13 AM 发表
有人翻译了，偶就不在重复了

说实话，战绩也太差了，就这样还敢说进球多？？？RURU你有没有拿你的单前锋的阵去吓吓他们？

                     

英雄斜阳

超过300个单词的文章坚决不给翻译！！！

xuxie851021

恩,不錯不錯,
許多洋文~