day eight: 25-man squads, B-teams, Turkish playoffs and more...
day eight: 25-man squads, B-teams, Turkish playoffs and more... the latest rule changeshttp://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/football-manager-2010/Football-Manager-2011-blog-with-Miles-Jacobson-day-eight-25-man-squads-B-teams-Turkish-playoffs-and-more-the-latest-rule-changes-to-top-computer-simulation-game-article595653.html
Since we started making Football Manager at Sports Interactive, it has always been about a simulating a football world. With over 50 countries' leagues playable and over 5,000 manageable teams in those leagues, it’s very important to us that we replicate each country's rules as accurately as possible.
What a lot of football fans don’t realise is quite how different the rules in different countries are. Take Spain for example, where reserve teams have different names to the first team, and are allowed to play in the league structure. Barcelona (Barcelona Athletic) and Real Madrid (Castilla) both have teams in leagues below them who, of course, can’t get promoted to the same division as their 'parent' club.
Or look at the MLS in America, where the league, not the club, own the players and there’s a wage cap for all clubs which is valid for the whole squad apart from two“marquee” players, who can be paid whatever the clubs want.
Or Brazil, where you play in both regional competitions and national competitions in the same season, with how well you do in some of them contributing to which competitions you then play in for the rest of the season.
With our team of researchers around the world (we have more than 1,000 people out there watching players week-in, week-out, as well as providing us local information and rules) we are in a very good position to be able to replicate these different nuances inside Football Manager 2011, and while there have been literally thousands of minor rule changes that we’ve put into the game this year, I’ve picked out a few here to go through.
First off is the new squad registration rules that are in place for the English divisions this season. To be fair, this isn’t a new thing to us, and we did have it in Football Manager 2010 too. You could actually tell which journalists played the game this summer when they were reporting with disgust that Manchester City were planning on selling players after signing some, as those who had played the game were quite clear that they had to to get their squad numbers down. But we’ve tidied up a few issues with it, in particular separating out the squad number and squad registration screens, so you can still give squad numbers to players that you don’t need to register.
One rule that has also been present in the game before but has now been improved is the one that decides who qualifies as a foreign player in France. There now a link from the game to a website that explains exactly which countries count in France as being colonised.
A fun one in the Turkish league is the rule that if four clubs end up on equal points at the end of the season at the top of the table, there will be a play-off between them to decide who has won the title.
We have even gone as far as adding in accurate support for who would be the Hong Kong continental competition representatives should one club win more than one trophy!
I spoke earlier in the blogs about how we’ve reworked B-teams in the game (like the Spanish teams mentioned above), and this should stop any frustration that people who are managing clubs with B-teams, or managing the B-teams themselves, should face, and make it more lifelike. We’ve spent a lot of time talking to people in the local territories where B-teams are most prevalent and hopefully that will be noticed by anyone who plays Football Manager 2011 in those leagues.
Some examples of that are more control for the managers of the A-team over which players their B-team will get. We've made it easier to move players from the B-team to the A-team and player biographies now take into account B-team performances when they report news on the player.
And to show the level of detail that we go into when we’re looking at these things, we've ensured that if there are eight B-teams in the Danish second division, no more can be promoted, and made sure that players in Spain can play at the B-team until the end of the season where the player turn 23, as long as that player is part-time or amateur.
I was planning on writing about some of the new additions to the 'awards' part of Football Manager 2011 today too, but I’ve run out of space. So will have to save that for a later blog…. 本帖最后由 fatfat325 于 2010-10-8 13:55 编辑
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Since we started making Football Manager at Sports Interactive, it has always been about a simulating a football world. With over 50 countries' leagues playable and over 5,000 manageable teams in those leagues, it’s very important to us that we replicate each country's rules as accurately as possible.
自从我们开始制作FM游戏以来，我们总是在給大家营造一种足球世界的盛宴。在超过50多个国家联赛和5000多支球队可以进行选择的情况下，我们必须保证每个国家联赛的最新规则的修改。
What a lot of football fans don’t realise is quite how different the rules in different countries are. Take Spain for example, where reserve teams have different names to the first team, and are allowed to play in the league structure. Barcelona (Barcelona Athletic) and Real Madrid (Castilla) both have teams in leagues below them who, of course, can’t get promoted to the same division as their 'parent' club.
很多的球迷都没有意识到，每个国家的联赛都是不一样的。就拿西班牙联赛来说，二线队和青年队与一线队的球队名字就不一样，而且可以出现在联赛当中。比如巴塞罗那（二线队就叫巴塞罗那竞技队），皇家马德里（二线队就叫卡斯蒂亚队）。所有的球队都有二线队踢低级别的联赛。当然，这些球队是不可能和他们的一线队进入同一个级别的联赛的
Or look at the MLS in America, where the league, not the club, own the players and there’s a wage cap for all clubs which is valid for the whole squad apart from two“marquee” players, who can be paid whatever the clubs want.
再看看美国职业足球大联盟。球员是属于联盟，而不是球队，并且联盟有一项工资帽的规定，对除了两名不受工资限制的球员以外，其他球员的工资都是受到限制（貌似有点像NBA的中产阶级）
Or Brazil, where you play in both regional competitions and national competitions in the same season, with how well you do in some of them contributing to which competitions you then play in for the rest of the season.
再来看看巴西联赛。你可以同时参加地区级别和国家级别的联赛。然后根据你的成绩来决定余下的赛季继续踢什么联赛。
With our team of researchers around the world (we have more than 1,000 people out there watching players week-in, week-out, as well as providing us local information and rules) we are in a very good position to be able to replicate these different nuances inside Football Manager 2011, and while there have been literally thousands of minor rule changes that we’ve put into the game this year, I’ve picked out a few here to go through.
我们有一个很大的全球范围的调查团队（我们有1000多人，再各个联赛进进出出，来提供每个联赛的规则和信息）我们会在2011的游戏里面全面的提供出每个联赛最新的里联赛规则和差别。今年大约有几千项规则的变更，下面我来简单的说几个重要的
First off is the new squad registration rules that are in place for the English divisions this season. To be fair, this isn’t a new thing to us, and we did have it in Football Manager 2010 too. You could actually tell which journalists played the game this summer when they were reporting with disgust that Manchester City were planning on selling players after signing some, as those who had played the game were quite clear that they had to to get their squad numbers down. But we’ve tidied up a few issues with it, in particular separating out the squad number and squad registration screens, so you can still give squad numbers to players that you don’t need to register.
首先是英格兰联赛的阵容规则。公平的说，这对我们来说不是什么新鲜的事情了。2010里面我们就已经做进去了。其实你都可以看出来哪些记者在夏天玩了游戏，他们会报导某些球队是否需要削减一线队的阵容，还有冤大头曼城队在买进了一批球员后又开始清洗球员，这让这些记者感觉非常不爽。但是我们在这方面也做了一些相关的修改。特别是区分了球队的的注册阵容和注册号码。所以玩家可以給那些没有注册的球员分配号码了。（不用看-1了）
One rule that has also been present in the game before but has now been improved is the one that decides who qualifies as a foreign player in France. There now a link from the game to a website that explains exactly which countries count in France as being colonised.
还有一项规则是关于法国联赛的外籍球员的。现在游戏中多添加了一个链接，可以精确的界定法国殖民地的网站（这个太汗了）
A fun one in the Turkish league is the rule that if four clubs end up on equal points at the end of the season at the top of the table, there will be a play-off between them to decide who has won the title.
一个非常有意思的规则出现在了土耳其联赛。如果联赛结束后，有四支球队积分相同的话，将会两两进行季后赛决定冠军的归属。
We have even gone as far as adding in accurate support for who would be the Hong Kong continental competition representatives should one club win more than one trophy!
我们甚至还加入了香港地区联赛的某个球队获得多项地区内赛事时洲际比赛资格确定的规则。
I spoke earlier in the blogs about how we’ve reworked B-teams in the game (like the Spanish teams mentioned above), and this should stop any frustration that people who are managing clubs with B-teams, or managing the B-teams themselves, should face, and make it more lifelike. We’ve spent a lot of time talking to people in the local territories where B-teams are most prevalent and hopefully that will be noticed by anyone who plays Football Manager 2011 in those leagues.
我在早前说过关于B队阵容的事情了（就像我上面说到的西班牙球队一样）这样的话，那些执教B队的球队或者亲自执教B队的话就不会出现什么不满的情况了。也让B队更加的接近现实。我们也花了很多的时间请教了B队周边地区的支持者，希望那些会在2011中执教B队的玩家们也能知道我们对游戏所做出的努力。
Some examples of that are more control for the managers of the A-team over which players their B-team will get. We've made it easier to move players from the B-team to the A-team and player biographies now take into account B-team performances when they report news on the player.
更好的例子是A队的教练会对B队的教练有更多的控制权。从B对选拔尖子球员到A队将会更加容易。而球员的列传中也会最新加入B队的表现。
And to show the level of detail that we go into when we’re looking at these things, we've ensured that if there are eight B-teams in the Danish second division, no more can be promoted, and made sure that players in Spain can play at the B-team until the end of the season where the player turn 23, as long as that player is part-time or amateur.
我们对这些联赛的规则细节变动观察的非常仔细。比如说如果丹麦的第二季联赛有八支球队的话，就不会有更多的球队升到这一级。而在西班牙，一些兼职和业余的球员可以在B队踢到23岁。
I was planning on writing about some of the new additions to the 'awards' part of Football Manager 2011 today too, but I’ve run out of space. So will have to save that for a later blog….
我本来还打算说一说关于2011里面奖项部分和一些新增的内容，但是地方全用完了，到时候再说吧！ 所以说翻译的时候自己发挥太多不好，会跑偏…… 这个翻译被宇宙队踩到小JJ了？ who, of course, can’t get promoted to the same division as their 'parent' club.
有一点不得不提的是，这些个预备队统统是可以升级一直升到甲级联赛的哦，什么你也不知道？拖出去弹鸡鸡一百下啊一百下。
这个翻译连can和can't都分不清楚 本帖最后由 fatfat325 于 2010-10-8 13:55 编辑
http://www.playcm.net/thread-469853-1-1.html
PlayGM 冬虫夏葱翻译
Since we started making Football Manager at Sports Interactive, it has always been about a simulating a football world. With over 50 countries' leagues playable and over 5,000 manageable teams in those leagues, it’s very important to us that we replicate each country's rules as accurately as possible.
从我们搞起了SI，SI搞起FM了那天开始，我们就知道我们要做的不是石矿，也不是非法，我们追求的是模拟一个真实的足球世界。迄今FM里已经有超过50个国家的足球联赛可供选择，大大小小的俱乐部加起来不下5000个，如何最大限度还原这么多联赛的联赛规则，永远是我们设计游戏的重要命题。
What a lot of football fans don’t realise is quite how different the rules in different countries are. Take Spain for example, where reserve teams have different names to the first team, and are allowed to play in the league structure. Barcelona (Barcelona Athletic) and Real Madrid (Castilla) both have teams in leagues below them who, of course, can’t get promoted to the same division as their 'parent' club.
据我所知有一大坨玩家，压根就不知道在不同的国家足球联赛的规则有着很大的区别，拿新科世界冠军做个例子，众所周知西班牙俱乐部的预备队并不是挂在一线队下面的，不但名字不同，而且就像一个正式的俱乐部那样有完整的编制，预备队们会凑一块搞一个完整的低级别联赛，不管是银河还是宇宙，蝙蝠还是床单，他们都有个预备队丢在低级联赛里折腾。有一点不得不提的是，这些个预备队统统是可以升级一直升到甲级联赛的哦，什么你也不知道？拖出去弹鸡鸡一百下啊一百下。
Or look at the MLS in America, where the league, not the club, own the players and there’s a wage cap for all clubs which is valid for the whole squad apart from two“marquee” players, who can be paid whatever the clubs want.
我们把摄像机对准橄榄球和足球傻傻分不清楚的米国，他们的足球联赛叫职业大联盟，跟NBA是一样一样滴，大联盟里的球员不是卖身给俱乐部而是整个联赛，每个俱乐部都设了一个工资帽（队员薪水上限），除了两名当家红倌人，其他球员在联盟里都可以随便交易，跟NBA是一样一样滴。
Or Brazil, where you play in both regional competitions and national competitions in the same season, with how well you do in some of them contributing to which competitions you then play in for the rest of the season.
下一站是有沙滩和美女的巴西，巴西的每个俱乐部每个赛季初都得同时参加地区联赛和国家联赛，根据前半段的成绩决定后半段集中踢什么比赛。
With our team of researchers around the world (we have more than 1,000 people out there watching players week-in, week-out, as well as providing us local information and rules) we are in a very good position to be able to replicate these different nuances inside Football Manager 2011, and while there have been literally thousands of minor rule changes that we’ve put into the game this year, I’ve picked out a few here to go through.
SI最自豪的是，我们有一个超过1000人的遍布全球的调查员团队，他们一直在观察球员们每周的动态，以及当地的情报、联赛规则，并把数据提供给我们。先谢谢国家，再谢谢他们给我们提供的数据，让我们能在FM2011里忠实的再现这么多不同国家的不同规则，而且啊，今年最给力的是我们对上千个附加规则做了修改，上千个哦！！不信？拖出去弹鸡鸡一百下啊一百下，然后回来看下面我的爆料。
First off is the new squad registration rules that are in place for the English divisions this season. To be fair, this isn’t a new thing to us, and we did have it in Football Manager 2010 too. You could actually tell which journalists played the game this summer when they were reporting with disgust that Manchester City were planning on selling players after signing some, as those who had played the game were quite clear that they had to to get their squad numbers down. But we’ve tidied up a few issues with it, in particular separating out the squad number and squad registration screens, so you can still give squad numbers to players that you don’t need to register.
首先是英格兰联赛新的阵容注册规则，虽然FM10时就有了这个，拿出来说一说权当我蛋疼了扯一下蛋。某些三流狗仔今年肯定会大肆报道曼彻斯特银行队签了多少多少人准备清洗多少多少人，因为丫们很清楚一线队只能留25个人，其他人别说喝汤，连涮锅水都没得舔，凡是这样写的，他一定玩过FM2011，恩，一定的。当然我们也修改了一下，把注册到联赛阵容和注册号码分成两码事，这样咱就可以给没注册联赛的球员一个号码，而不用看着-1蛋疼菊紧了。
One rule that has also been present in the game before but has now been improved is the one that decides who qualifies as a foreign player in France. There now a link from the game to a website that explains exactly which countries count in France as being colonised.
然后是很有意思的法国，法国的殖民地很多的，所以就有球员很困惑于自己到底是本土还是外籍呢？凡是有这困恼的球员玩家，我建议你买一套FM2011，你会在里面找到一个链接，转向一个网站，里面很清晰的列出了法国的属国有哪些。
A fun one in the Turkish league is the rule that if four clubs end up on equal points at the end of the season at the top of the table, there will be a play-off between them to decide who has won the title.
淘金首选——土耳其联赛也是很有意思，它规定如果有四支球队在赛季结束时积分并列第一，要打附加赛来决定冠军归属。当然要实现这情景只有考虑核武了。
We have even gone as far as adding in accurate support for who would be the Hong Kong continental competition representatives should one club win more than one trophy!
我们也没有忽略天朝唷~~~我们加入了新规则，明确了香港球队赢得多项地区内赛事时，洲际比赛资格的获取条件。什么香港不是天朝？你想被跨省吗？
I spoke earlier in the blogs about how we’ve reworked B-teams in the game (like the Spanish teams mentioned above), and this should stop any frustration that people who are managing clubs with B-teams, or managing the B-teams themselves, should face, and make it more lifelike. We’ve spent a lot of time talking to people in the local territories where B-teams are most prevalent and hopefully that will be noticed by anyone who plays Football Manager 2011 in those leagues.
早先我说过了，之前有很多有B队或者直接执教B队的玩家们在论坛问候我家妹妹啊，所以我们对B队做出了很多改进（比如上面提到的的西班牙预备队）。我们花了很多时间深入B队备受重视的地区的群众去请教他们，希望会在FM2011中在有B队的联赛中打拼的玩家们知道咱们的不懈努力。
Some examples of that are more control for the managers of the A-team over which players their B-team will get. We've made it easier to move players from the B-team to the A-team and player biographies now take into account B-team performances when they report news on the player.
FM2011里，A队的经理会对B队的球员引进会有更多的话语权；从B队提升球员到A队将更方便，而球员列传里也会加入球员在B队的表现。
And to show the level of detail that we go into when we’re looking at these things, we've ensured that if there are eight B-teams in the Danish second division, no more can be promoted, and made sure that players in Spain can play at the B-team until the end of the season where the player turn 23, as long as that player is part-time or amateur.
我们真的有深入群众了解群众哦，我们花了很多精力摸清楚了很多东西。拿丹麦来说吧，他们二级联赛只允许有8支B队；又比如在西班牙，兼职和业余球员们可以在B队一直踢到他们23岁那个赛季结束，等等等等。
I was planning on writing about some of the new additions to the 'awards' part of Football Manager 2011 today too, but I’ve run out of space. So will have to save that for a later blog….
改动远远不止上面这些，这么多规则的修改凑一块，简直就是要你命三千啊，问你怕了没！不怕？很好，那我再扔点关于FM2011里面“奖项设置”的内容吓死你！
不过呢，今天打字打累了，明天请早…… 换掉了2L的翻译
大概以后PGM还是冬虫夏葱翻的话 这里的翻译就转OurCM的了
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