4-3-3 - Overloading The Flanks- Dutch Methodology, Playing The Dutch Way

calvinzhang

So what do the Dutch know that we don't? A few years back the England U17's played a friendly against the Dutch U17's (mostly consisting of Ajax players) and that got thrashed because the Dutch youngsters were so much better tactically then the English. You go to Holland and look at their youth teams and you'll find 90% of them play 4-3-3. But why? I'll agree that the 4-3-3 does not offer a lot of creativity but it does encourage easy play and it's easy to teach. The reason why Dutch caoches teach their youth teams 4-3-3 is to teach them wing play seeing as most of youngsters like to play the ball through the middle.

It's all about overloading the flanks which was one of the ideologies when Holland started to play the 3-4-3. The theory was if you have a defender, a midfielder and a winger on the flank you could easily get down the wing and cross into the box. The formation got modernized around in the 90's because the 3-4-3 was suffering defensively and got replaced with a 4-3-3 formation to create a more solid unit. We've seen Holland play it in the WC and we also saw Rijkaard's fortunes as Barcelona manager playing the 4-3-3. We've also seen Chelsea play the 4-3-3 but not really always in the sense of focusing on wing play, sometimes route one through Drogba.

With 4-3-3, you need to have your outside wingers dropping back and helping with the build-up. It's very important to keep these guys near the sideline. The middle three have to work as a unit and understand each other very well with one of them reverting to a more defensive role whilst the other's held build up a long the wings.



Above you'll see the build up phase of the 4-3-3. As you see the ball has moved from one fullback to the other to stretch the opposition. Then you see there are a few ways this can start; a) The fullback pass the MC and gets the return pass further up field and then hits it forward to the winger down the flank. b) the winger comes deep to get the ball off of the fullback, he one two's with the MC to get clear of his drawn out fullback which also creates space for the forward to move as well. It is important that there is movement on the opposite flank of where the action is going on. The opposite MC should be moving upfield, the opposite winger should be keeping width but as soon as the winger has gotten down the flank he should be in the box to be on the end of a cross and the opposite fullback should be keeping width incase we have to start all over again in case of a move that breaks down.

Seems quite simple but yet effective no? So how's this look like in FM?



Quite easy to set up. 1 goalie, flat back four, a DMC protecting them and also in the final third supporting the fullbacks if they want to switch from flank to flank. 2 MC's in front of him helping in the build up stage, two wingers with farrows to push them far forward when the ball is on the opposite flank and 1 striker. As far as instructions go you want to play wide so the wingers are touching the sidelines, everyone bar the wingers and striker I've put on low creativity so they keep to the plan and not fanny about with the ball (there has to be a belief that it can be done). The wingers, MC's and fullbacks are on the same mentality so they can short pass together and are on the same wavelength. So does this look exactly like the diagram in the game?



Sure does  atm I am trying to perfect it defensively but offensivly it works a treat

calvinzhang

这样用荷兰效果也不错...大家可以看看...

calvinzhang

什么是荷兰人知道的而我们不知道的呢?早在几年前,荷兰17岁青年队和英格兰17岁青年队有一场友谊赛(这支荷兰队大部分是Ajax的球员).由于荷兰年轻球员在战术上更胜一筹所以使英格兰一败涂地.你们去看看他们荷兰青年队,你就会发现他们90%使用4-3-3阵形.为什么会这样呢?我个人认为,4-3-3虽然没有创意,但这个阵形更容易鼓励发挥也更容易教导.由于大部分的年轻球员喜欢中路突破,为了教他们边锋战术,这就是为什么荷兰的教练们使用433在青年队上.
当荷兰以前开始使用343时,一切关于重视两翼的打法都是一种意识形态之一.这个理论是这样的,如果你有一个后卫,一个中场和一个边锋在两翼,你可以很简单的就下底传中.这个阵型更流行在90年代,但因为343无奈于防守上,而433可以创造各个更多的坚固的防守单元所以可以取而代之.我们可以看到荷兰对澳大利亚时用这个433阵型.我们也可以看到Rijkaard的成功转变当他作为Barcelona的教练使用433时.我们更可以看到Chelsea使用433时,但始终没有真正意义上发挥重点的边路打法,有时候球只是通过一个球员传递路线到Drogba脚下.
433中,你必须使你的边锋经常地回撤帮助增强后防.这是非常重要的保留一些靠近边线家伙.中场的三个人必须紧密配合如一个人一样,他们必须有很好的互相理解,随着他们中的一个总离不开配演更多的防守角色同时其他2人支撑增强一条长的边路.

在上图,你看见一个同步建立的433模型.你首先看到球从一个边后卫到另一个人再延伸到对方半场.然后你看见了很多可以开始的通过方式.a)边后卫传球给中场球员(mc),接到中场队员的回传在更远的另一边然后带球直插给边锋下底.b)得到后卫的球后边锋深入,他一个人和两个中场球员可以很明确的他的拖长战线是为了那些直插转移边后卫也可以创造更多的空间.更重要的是,对方两翼的转移,那些地方的这个行为可能是持续的.对方的中场可能会转移直插的,边锋可能会保持一定的宽度,但同时边锋应该尽快下底,他可能是为了最后的传中在禁区中,对方的后卫可能会保持一定的宽度,万一不得不再一次重新开始如果一次传递失败的话.
似乎很简单但还没有很大的效果?这要FM中看似如何了?

很容易排阵,一个门将,四个平行后卫,一个后腰保护后卫的前方同时也是第三个支持边后卫在最后,如果他们想交叉换边的话,在后腰前面的2个中场应该帮助加强控制中场,两个边锋和前锋应该直插向前推进当球已在对面的边路时,一旦你的指示下达需要拉边,所以两个边锋是联系起来的在边线.我设置最少的创造力在边锋和射手上,是为了让他们保持计划,不要莫名其妙地带球(要有信仰,它可以做到),边锋,中场和边后卫们,应该是同一种心态,即他们设置为一起短传配合,他们也可能是同一节奏,波长.所以这个是否确实看起来像比赛中的图表呢?

我正试着完善防守但进攻是一种不错的"疗法".

[ 本帖最后由 calvinzhang 于 2006-8-21 08:53 PM 编辑 ]

捷克10号

-.-0,有一些不理解。。前锋的低创造性是可以接受的，不过边锋的低创造性难到是为了逼抢，那不就跟跑位相矛盾了么。。似乎创造力就是用来创造机会的，我也搞糊涂了，因为我们队里的边路球员是中等偏上的创造力设置。

calvinzhang

原帖由 捷克10号 于 2006-8-20 17:25 发表
-.-0,有一些不理解。。前锋的低创造性是可以接受的，不过边锋的低创造性难到是为了逼抢，那不就跟跑位相矛盾了么。。似乎创造力就是用来创造机会的，我也搞糊涂了，因为我们队里的边路球员是中等偏上的创造力设置。

欧洲的fm玩家的说法也不是全都对的.所以我在选贴分析的时候是额外谨慎的.
基本上能到我们fmhq来的欧洲帖子都是有一定见解的帖子.
但不一定说明他是完全对的.
感觉中国的fm玩家不比国外有落后之处,尤其是战术方面.

捷克10号

没错，这点有同感，国外玩家ms领先个10分夺冠都high的不行。。。恩，还要多实验。。等07测试中。。

calvinzhang

原帖由 捷克10号 于 2006-8-21 09:03 发表
没错，这点有同感，国外玩家ms领先个10分夺冠都high的不行。。。恩，还要多实验。。等07测试中。。

我在一个俄语的网站找了一个新的fmscout.ms不错...等我测试一下.不错的话,我发出来....

捷克10号

原帖由 calvinzhang 于 2006-8-22 08:01 AM 发表

我在一个俄语的网站找了一个新的fmscout.ms不错...等我测试一下.不错的话,我发出来....

俄语。。。你咋啥都会啊。。。汗

calvinzhang

原帖由 捷克10号 于 2006-8-21 19:30 发表


俄语。。。你咋啥都会啊。。。汗

........一点点啦...我的first love可是一个俄国女孩哦~学了一点啦...

捷克10号

-。-0，俄国的都不放过。。。不过ms俄国女生是不错。